Shozy Earbuds (Cygnus, BK,...)

[Doori]

Je dirais:
- des basses qui manquent d'impact voire de présence
- des médiums riches, de belles voix
- des aigus pas agressif
- soundstage assez restreint
- mais un placement très cohérent
Au final, un rendu plutôt intime, naturel et pas fatiguant pour un sous.

[corderaide]

C'est un dossier en cours "d'instruction" comme on dit dans les milieux autorisés  :mrgreen:  (en lien avec ttaazz)

Il me semble qu'il y aura une réponse dans les prochains jours, soyez patients

[Kooka]

J'ai modifié le titre du topic pour qu'on en profite pour discuter de la gamme complète d'earbuds de Shozy, plutôt que les seuls Cygnus...

De mon côté, quelques petits retours sur les B.K :

Shozy stardust (BK), Elibuds Saida et Blur (Blur 魔声/聲) en cours de test ! Miam miam !!  :headphone:

Petit bilan après quelques écoutes comparatives :
- Blur (Blur 魔声/聲) : bof... Pas impressionné, je ne suis pas plus fan que ça.
- Elibuds Saida : très sympa, no-brainer et agréable à l'écoute, bon earbud. @Takumi : c'est quoi le prix de ceux-là au fait ? (pour les situer).
- Shozy stardust (BK) : je suis In Love. Ca me ferait une super paire pour aller avec mes HD650, ça.  :(l)

Suite au prêt de Takumi... J'ai craqué !  8-)
Forme/diamètre des coques, qualité de finition et du câble, sonorité : impossible de résister, c'est commandé !  :drool:

Shozy BK (Stardust)

Je te dirai pour la comparaison Graphéne/BK : mes Graphéne sont sur la route...  :headphone: (mais je pense que c'est surtout en terme de signature sonore qu'ils se ressemblent, pas forcément en terme de technicité. Je peux me tromper, c'est basé sur mes lectures pour le moment).
C'est aussi sur le confort et le câble que ça se joue : là, y'a vraiment pas photo ! (coque "Yuin" et câble très qualitatif sur les Shozy). Je les oublie totalement quand je les écoutes, ce n'est pas le cas avec les earbud en coque "MX500" malheureusement...

De mon côté j'arrête les achats en boutons HdG avec les Shozy BK. Ils sont vraiment parfaits à mes oreilles, pour des boutons. Fit, câble, sonorité, drivabilité, versatilité : tout me va.  :drool:  

Takumi59, totoz3ro,... J'attends vos retours et impressions sur les BK !!

[Kooka]

=> Quelques reviews :

https://everydaylisteningblog.wordpress ... fine-wine/

Verdict – 9/10, Shozy’s newest earbud boasts an expertly crafted build that exhumes exclusivity and an organic, slightly analogue tuning that thoroughly impresses with its realism. If you’re looking for a versatile, balanced and comfortable earbud, the BK is a fantastic choice.

http://theheadphonelist.com/shozy-bk-st ... ud-review/

So the BK is not a cheap earbud, but in a sense, it does provide pleasing value. They offer a unique but catching aesthetic, supreme long-term comfort and a very mature sound that is a rarity even among vastly more expensive products. Shozy might not have the most cutting-edge products, but one thing they nail is tonality, arguably just as important if not more so. The BK actualizes their philosophy as a tonally excellent earbud that possesses some really nice quality too. Bass texture and tightness, in particular, are more akin to that offered by the $300 Oriveti New Primacy than the in-ears and earbuds around $150-200. Though the New Primacy offers more sub-bass and slightly more resolution still, the BK comes in at just half the price. Their midrange is also an outlier around this price, they are simply so natural sounding without compromising clarity and detail presentation. This does come with some caveats, the BK’s don’t have the most atmospheric treble response, they need a nice source to flourish and provide almost zero noise isolation; but if you love the earbud form factor or intend to use them in quiet environments, the BK’s provide an exceptional auditory experience.

Verdict – 9/10, Shozy’s newest earbud boasts an expertly crafted build that exhumes exclusivity and an organic, slightly analogue tuning that thoroughly impresses with its realism. If you’re looking for a versatile, balanced and comfortable earbud, the BK is a fantastic choice.

Overall, much more coherent sound signature than any VE product I've tried. Great build, accessories slightly lacking. Best earbud I've used yet by a fairly significant margin. Like these much more than the VE Zen which I was underwhelmed by. Monks are still a good buy for the price, but obviously don't sound as nice as the much more expensive Stardust. It'll be interesting to try some other earbuds Head-Fi goes gaga over (Cypherus Audio ones come to mind). Safe to say I've graduated from the VE meme

Comparaison sur https://everydaylisteningblog.wordpress.com/

- Avec les Ourart Ti7 :
Shozy BK ($160): Take the Cygnus, balance out its tone, add technicality and you essentially have the BK. It’s a fantastic extension of the very natural Shozy house sound with tighter bass, more open, present mids and a more detailed, extended high-end. Build remains similar but the cable is tougher though not removable like the Ti7. I do prefer the BK quite strongly to the Ourart, it represents a maturation of the same style of sound with greater clarity, resolution and more accurate body. Bass is tighter but just as articulate and mids are more balanced and transparent. High are much more open on the BK if not particularly airy or extended in the grand scheme of things. Of course, they are much more expensive and the law of diminishing returns does show its ugly face, but the BK does a lot to justify its premium price. Both are similarly difficult to drive, though the BK is more sensitive, it is also even pickier about source synergy due to its transparency.
- avec les Rose Masya :
Shozy BK ($160): The BK fits identically to the Cygnus but has a sturdier 8-core cable (also fixed). It has a more balanced sound than the Cygnus overall though it is less aggressive in its presentation and is still less neutral than the Masya. The very clear Masya makes the BK sound almost veiled though the BK is definitely not a veiled earbud in isolation and is more linear and natural. Bass is more coherent and textured with greater sub-bass extension on the Shozy though both are very clean and defined. Mids are clearer on the Masya but more layered and resolving on the BK due to its superior resolution. The Masya has greater treble extension and air than the BK at the cost of realism and some texture. The BK is more concise and detailed within its upper midrange/lower treble though the highest details are resolved better by the Masya. The BK images well, a lot better than the Masya, though the Rose easily has the more spacious soundstage.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/earbuds ... t-13848462

BK is excellent for warm balanced full sound. Vocals very forward, treble smooth and nicely extended with thicker foams like donut and full but harsher and extremely detailed with monk thin foams so you get to chose your preference. It has great extension on both ends so you get a healthy amount of sub bass and highs/treble, but it's not over done on emphasis since it's balanced and not U or V shaped. Overall it's a great performer but it's not got a massively out of head experience for soundstage (more up front and small room effect but still have good imaging and incredible resolution and detail)so it's more suited to vocal/acoustic/rock/jazz music than EDM, symphony or atmospheric stuff. I would consider it a very organic natural sound like the Cygnus but slightly more leveled off and warmer whereas cygnus is more neutral and has more rolled off treble and a mid bass bump for fun factor.

If you like to hear your vocals with great weight and lush mids, warm and musical. Go for stardust.
If you prefer a grand atmospheric effect with huge soundstage and lots of space/ sound. Look elsewhere!

La dernière description est excellente et reflète exactement ce que j'en pense.

[Kooka]

Comparaison entre 4 earbuds : DIY Graphene / Shozy Cygnus / Shozy BK Stardust / Rose Masya : https://www.head-fi.org/threads/earbuds ... t-13866660

Impressions time!

I'm going to keep this simple and to the point. I'll compare the DIY Graphene, Shozy Cygnus and Shozy BK Stardust and Rose Masya.

All the earbuds have been burned in atleast 15+ hours.

Low end/Bass:

Graphene
Polite Sub Bass, extends quiet low but not felt too much
Mid bass bump, slightly less defined and punch compared to shozy's but still of good quality. Slightly warm and smooth.

Cygnus
Sub bass presents similar to Graphene, Maybe slightly more presence, but not by much and is almost definitely down to fit/seal.
Mid bass has a punchy but overall warm analog sound that is slight better defined than the graphene possibly (shell size could be making a difference here).

BK Stardust
Extends equally as low but is more balanced with the mid bass. Slightly more felt presence and of higher resolution than the others.
Mid bass is less slightly emphasised than Cygnus for a more balanced linear bass presentation, about the same as the Graphene but of higher quality and sounds wonderfully resolving and has the same tight punchy but warm analog sound as the cygnus.

Masya
Good sub bass presence, not overpowering but always felt. Slightly colder tone than the others but not dull.
Mid bass carries on the same presentation, good presence but again not overpowering. The slightly colder presentation allows the sub and miss bass some great airy qualities and space. Bass heavy tracks don't become congested at all. Has the most effortless bass response of all the buds, slightly more presence than the BK overall if you get a good seal/fit that is.
Overall can be described as a spacious, extremely tight/quick sounding bass with good presence.

Mid Range/Vocals:

Graphene
Neutral presentation, musical and in balance with the low end/high end. The slightly warm low end flows into the lower mids giving them a slight warmth which fades out as you reach the high mids, this is very shozy-like. Mids have good sparkle and sound natural with good timbre and space/air between instruments. Vocals are the weak point here, they are slightly recessed which makes them somewhat duller than that of the Cygnus, although being of similar neutral tonality. The one positive is that they sound natural. Possibly with a warmer, smoother source that can push them slightly forward you may be able to improve the vocals somewhat.

Cygnus
Neutral presentation, musical and in balance with the low end/high end. Same as above, warm low end allows the low mids a bit of warmth which helps fill out the sound nicely. Mids have good sparkle and sound natural with a slightly good timbre and space air between instruments. Vocals are neutral and decently detailed. Vocals are not particularly thick or lush but do sound relatively clear and detailed thanks to their slightly forward presentation. They also are very natural sounding.

Stardust BK
The highlight of the show. If you're after a thick lush natural mid range with very good detailing, separation and natural timbre the bk offers it all. The sound after burn in smoothes out but just stays on the edge with it's resolving and textured slightly warm presentation. Like the cygnus the bass warmth helps the vocals sound full and lush, high mids are neutral but sweet and sparkly. Everything is wonderfully balanced and defined. I don't need to say much more other than this is the best natural sounding mid range I've heard in an earbud and shozy have done an excellent job tuning this earbud.
Again a neutral presentation with excellent separation, detailing and a slight emphasis on on the mid range to bring out excitement in instrumentals and vocals. This is certainly not just mid centric earbud though and on the whole is nicely balanced, with only a mild mid emphasis. Whilst it may not have the same natural timbre as the bk, it certainly has a wonderfully exciting smooth clean sound. However, this time with little warmth or mid bass bloat influencing the lower mids, in some ways it's nice to have a clean sounding low mid region but I think it doesn't help the Masya when paired with my bright/neutral sounding iphone 6s. The lack of thick low mids does affect the vocals, but I suspect with a different source this problem is not evident, other headfier's have not had this issue with their sources. Apart from the thin sound of the vocals, there is incredible clarity and a sweet delicate presentation which is just wonderful. Whilst the resolution may not be as high as the BK, it certainly has a cleaner smoother overall presentation at the cost of some thickness. Overall vocal quality is equal on both, the choice is yours if you prefer smooth and clear sound of the Masya or textured and naturally full vocals of the BK.

High's/Treble:

Graphene
High's are well extended but slightly peaky in places, overall pretty balanced the lows and mids though. Treble is lively and sparkly and has nice detailing. Not too much roll off as far as I can tell, the usual amount for a balanced treble proficient earbud somewhere in between the cygnus and stardust I feel. With the right foams to tame/bring out the treble to the users needs, these sound wonderful up top.

Cygnus
Much of the same as the Graphene, maybe slightly more roll off up top. There are no obvious peaks which keeps the treble smoother than the Graphene but at the cost of a slightly more rolled off top end. Overall a very similar treble experience which I enjoyed a lot.

BK Stardust
The high end is a step up on the BK, so long as you can handle it. It has greater extension, detailing and balance than the Cygnus or Graphene. Continues the tonality of the upper mids being very natural and neutral.

Masya
Extends well like the bk, but there is a slight peak in the treble which could be troublesome for some, although not much of an issue with the right foams. Overall a very well articulated high end that smoothly transitions from the upper mids. Smoother presentation than the bk, but slightly less detailed (only very slightly). Overall some really high quality treble here again.

Soundstage/Imaging

Graphene
Soundstage feels medium-big Width is good, depth decent too. Imaging is pretty accurate overall.

Cygnus
Soundstage feels medium in size but more intimate/close in presentation. Width and depth are good. Imaging may be a little better than the Graphene, hard to tell, nothing too noticeable.

BK Stardust
Soundstage feels medium in size, like cygnus it feels close possibly even more intimate due to the even more forward sounding presentation. Imaging is a step above the Graphene and Cygnus, location of sounds are very easy to locate.

Masya
Big soundstage, feels open and spacious, out of head despite the intimate vocals and mid range nothing sounds too confined. More depth than width focused. Imaging isn't as quiet as good as the cygnus or stardust though. Sounds are not as easy to pinpoint.

Overally I'd say all these earbuds are equally impressive within their price ranges. My personal pick is still the shozy BK but at the price range that may be expected. If your looking for a bigger out of head sound the Rose Masya is an excellent earbud at a better price than the BK. The Cygnus and Graphene are very similar but you pay extra for better vocal balance and better overall coherency of sound with less peaks and dips.

Hope you guys find the review helpful!

Super review !!

[takumi059]

BK > all :D mais reste que perso je trouve que les aigus peuvent être fatiguant. Je pourrais pas les écouter des heures et des heures sans couper. ^^

[Kooka]

Ca doit dépendre de l'association car ils ne me "choquent" pas, mais je les écoute plus volontiers sur le Plenue 1 que sur le DP-X1... Et je préfère quand même les écouter avec des bonnettes pleines qu'avec des Donuts, signe que ça "monte" haut" dans les aigus en effet.

[totoz3ro]

les EMX500 avec le M1s ca envoie vraiment bien
mention speciale au rendu de la profondeur des basses
comme le disait totoz3ro dans le fil du M1s , ca fait un ensemble petit prix qui marche bien .

Salut, j'ai aussi les Shozy BK qui sont mes préférés MAIS j'ai reçu la semaine dernière les graphene de chez HCK.
Alors à 25 balles avec les mousses VE posées sur les pitis anneaux en caoutchouc du pack EX (pour le seal), bin c'est très très (trop ?) proche. Un peu moins confortables et moins bien construits mais honnêtement ils sont 6X plus chers les BK !
Bref je conseille grandement pour essayer sans se ruiner, vous m'en direz des nouvelles !

[Kooka]

J'ai aussi eu les Graphene (revendu, depuis) et de mon côté je les ai trouvé bien loin des BK, tant niveau confort que qualité technique. Et sur mon matériel et à mes oreilles, ils n'avaient pas vraiment la même signature sonore. Les BK ont un son lourd et plein (= organique ?), comme je n'en ai jamais entendu sur des boutons : du côté des Graphene le son est plus fin et bien moins dense, en comparaison en tout cas. Basses moins définies (brouillonnes), médiums moins raffinés et aigus qui coupaient plus tôt. Sans parler du niveau de détails, les BK sont difficiles à égaler sur ce point de toute façon... Un "air de famille", ok, mais pas plus, pour moi.

Peut-être une histoire de fit aussi, avec les BK j'ai un fit parfait alors qu'avec les "mx500" c'est toujours plus délicat. Cela dit, pour leur prix, ils sont très bons ! Mais en comparaison pur : ils sont battus (encore une fois, à mes oreilles). Reste que si on n'a que 25€ à y mettre, y'a pas débat => à ce prix là c'est excellent.

PS : je leur préfère les DIY EMX500, quand même, surtout pour moins de 10€ de leur côté (quitte à garder une paire "pas cher").

[bourbon kid]

Je sens que les BK je vais craquer
Avec le hm802 qui va arriver ,ça devrait le faire...

[bourbon kid]

Bon les shozy BK , pas accroché
J ai testé une semaine puis les ai refilé .
Ils sont probablement très bons techniquement mais ils ne m ont pas "charmé" comme le hp650 (mais pourquoi j ai pas gardé).......

[Kooka]

Je garde les HP650 dans un coin de mon coeur, mais les BK leur sont supérieures (comme tu le dis : techniquement). Et puis, ce confort, royal. Mais bon, les goûts et les couleurs...

Il ne te reste plus qu'à retrouver une paire de HP650 du coup !

[bourbon kid]

J y compte bien. !!!!!
A trop vouloir upgrader, quelquefois on se perds

[Mimouille]

Bon j'ai une petite paire de Shozy BK en chemin. On verra dans quelques jours, j'ai pas essayé ce genre d'écouteurs depuis 1992.

[hoho]

Cool Mimouille, j'avais bien aimé les BK sur le 1Z en balanced