J'adoOore les rebrandings de trucs hors de prix à trois euros six cents: ça fait rager les snobs.
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(A signaler d'ailleurs qu'en ce domaine, quoique moins gourmand que Fischer-Audio, MP4Nation se sucre lui aussi pas mal au passage... certainement plus qu'Electro Dépôt, en tout cas!
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Tutut a écrit :
Razz avait dit qu'ils concevraient leurs intras
Ah, ah, ah, laisse-moi rire: ils disent tous ça. Ces rebranders sont des champions de la mauvaise foi.
Pour mémoire, je me permets de rappeler cette citation édifiante (oui, je sais, c'est long, mais fallait pas me chatouiller les moustaches):
Dj Run a écrit :DarkZenith : Est-ce que tu pense que le son des autres "clones" du FA-004 serait le même que sur l'Edenwood ?
J'en suis pratiquement convaincu.
J'ai moi aussi pensé à un moment: Fischer Audio et les autres marques "audiophiles" doivent quand même bidouiller les Yoga à leur sauce avant de les proposer à leurs propres clients, histoire de justifier leur marge autrement que par le prestige de leur logo, comme Alessandro le fait par exemple avec les Grado (sauf qu'en l'occurrence, le casque modifié (MS1) est
moins cher que l'original (RS125)! Mais passons...)
Eh bien, après enquête, il semblerait que non.
m00hk00h, un membre de Head-Fi qui est en liaison avec Yoga, affirme avoir reçu des courriels de ce fabricant lui certifiant qu'aucun de ses casques vendus pour retail à FA ou Teufel (autres marques de rebranding de produits Yoga, allemande cette fois-ci) n'est retouché en aucune autre manière que cosmétique par ces boîtes qui tentent ensuite de nous les refourguer en nous faisant croire qu'ils sortent de leur propre labo!
Voici ce que m00hk00h répondait à ce sujet à LFF, grand fan et fameux testeur des produits FA sur Head-Fi, quand celui-ci a eu l'imprudence d'affirmer: "Fischer uses their own drivers."
No they don't, according to Yoga. And they must know, they are producing them for Fischer. Along with many other of the head- and earphones in the Fischer lineup. And Fischer is not the only OEM costumer (and not the only one claiming to have have changed something).
The Berlin based company Teufel for example has Yoga headphones (and is considering taking the the phones we are talking right now into the lineup). They call the "over the ear" model AC 9050 and when it was first announced they claimed that Teufel engineers had it changed after their instructions. But when I asked Yoga they told me all they changed was the color. And when I was finally able to hear it, it was clear to me that it sounded just like my CD98 did which I got directly from Yoga.
And even they didn't tell me anything there would still be "common sense":
It's almost impossible to make a headphone sound good if you don't develop it as a whole from the beginning. Just taking the cups of some manufacturer (and I know for a fact that Yoga wouldn't sell the cups alone) and trying to put in your own drivers is more work then actually doing it all by yourself. And even if Fischer removes the innards it brings up lot's of other questions:
Where do the new drivers come from? They can't come out of nowhere. I really doubt they have the knowledge to develop and manufacture them themselves because then they would be able to build the whole thing themselves. And where would they exchange the drivers anyways? They would need room and personnel to do that.
Finally take a look at the technical data. This alone is more then a clue. How high are the chances that Fischer's drivers (if there are any) have the same specs as the ones from Yoga?
And even if they were considering buying the drivers from somewhere else they could as well have stayed with the Yoga ones in the first place because it would spare them the place and the personnel to change the drivers.
And that's what they did. According to Yoga.
Anything else would also have been very uneconomical.
This got a little longer then I expected it to be in the first place. But I felt like I had to explain myself.
Fischer is "just" another OEM reseller. Not that this is bad or something. Equation showed how it's done and Fischer seems to do a good job, too.
I have no problem with that.
m00h