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Lu sur le fil du ZX[emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]]Image[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]]]][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]]Image[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]]]][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]]Image[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]]]]]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]]Image[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]]]][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]]Image[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]]]][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]]Image[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]]]]]] sur HF : la Chine aurait également imposé un plafonnement pour les DAP. C'est MrWalkman qui a trouvé cette info (accessoirement, il vient d'acheter un ZX[emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]]Image[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]]]][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]]Image[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]]]][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]]Image[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]]]]]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]]Image[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]]]][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]]Image[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]]]][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emoji[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]]Image[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]]]]]] non plafonné).
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Sony, toujours le premier de la classe sur ce sujet de la limitation, a diffusé un communiqué pour inviter les propriétaires de WM[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]]]AM[emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]Image[emoji6ImageImage]][emojiImageImage[emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage][emoji[emoji6ImageImage]ImageImage]]] à rapporter leur appareil pour qu'il puisse être reparamétré en usine. :mrgreen:
Ils sont fous ces gens… Sony c’est à croire qu’ils veulent diminuer leurs ventes et même tuer la licence Walkman. Quel gâchis. J’espère que Mrwalkman va trouver un moyen de by-pass la limitation. Je sais que ce n’est pas le seul à chercher à y parvenir et ça sera un grand jour quand ils y arriveront.
DAP: Astell & Kern SP3000Cu, Sony Wm1a (Walkman one fw).
DAC/AMP/Dongle: Chord Hugo 2, Cayin RU7
Casques: Kennerton Odin Mk2, Denon AH-D9200, Sony 1000XM3.
IEM: VE Erlkönig + Null Audio Tiburon Symphonym, AE Mentawai V2 + Penon ASOS, Unique Melody Multiverse Mentor + Deep of Universe cable
Sédentaire: KEF LSXII
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Ouhla, par contre est-ce un coup de semonce pour toutes les marques chinoises de DAP ??
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En effet, nombreux débats et spéculations sur HF s'agissant d'un éventuel respect de cette réglementation à l'avenir par tous les constructeurs de DAP chinois. Au pire, ça fera monter la cote à l'argus des modèles anciens non plafonnés !
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Oui, enfin si la loi dit xdB max comme en Europe, sans rien préciser d'ailleurs des impédances ou efficacités associées, les puissances de sorties anémiques à la Sony en UE vont déferler, ça ferait mal.

Y'aura plus qu'à trouver des versions japonaises ou qu'ils fassent des bridages de façade mais fort aisément débridables au demeurant.
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C’est déjà ce qui se passe avec les versions sous android. Ça doit tellement faire mal de sortir trois mille six cents euros (merci le bug) et ne rien pouvoir faire avec.
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